The Decline and Fall of Forums?

May 19, 2010

in General,social media

Forums – The Earliest Form of Social Media

Web forums were one of the first forms of online social media. Providing a platform for web surfers to interact, they were a welcome change from the old static websites. As forum software evolved, it allowed for actual communities to be formed.

Forums are usually focused on a topic. For example, my cat forums deal with every aspect of cat care and bring together cat lovers in discussions about the latest cat food, feline behavior problems, or managing a colony of feral cats. You can find forums on practically any topic out there, and the good ones will be a goldmine of information accumulated by users over years.

… And Then Came Blogs

The next big breakthrough in social media was the blog. Blogs too have dynamic content, and most of them allow comments, in effect allowing for communities to evolve around the blog.

Unlike forums, blogs are usually focused around a person (or a web persona). This isn’t to say that a blog can’t have a topic – on the contrary, many blogs focus on a particular theme. However, that theme is delivered by a web persona that gives the blog its single authoritative voice. The voices in the comments are always secondary.

The Shift in Focus

After blogs came the various social networks. Now, while on the surface these may seem to be “communities”, I argue that they are more like blogs than forums.

Take Twitter, for example. It’s called micro-blogging for a reason. The various streams are focused on users – not topics. You can opt to follow users and create your own stream of tweets. Granted, you’re likely to follow people who tweet about things that are of interest to you, but it’s people first, topics second.

Here’s another way to look at the difference between forums and the new types of social media -

  • In forums, you are a guest on someone else’s turf and need to play by the rules set up by the forum owner. Those who don’t play by the rules can be rejected. Forums almost always have some level of moderation, to enforce official rules and unofficial practices.
  • In blogs and social networks, you are rarely moderated. Rather than invite you as a guest into their own territory, social networks such as Facebook and Twitter provide you with a platform, for you to create own corner on the web and interact with other users as an equal.

And so, as more people turn to social networks and blogs for their information and fun – forums are bound to suffer.

I don’t know about you, but I certainly visit webmasters forums less frequently. They are no longer my first and foremost source of information. Blogs, along with social networks, provide me with an environment where I can interact with fellow professionals on equal terms.

Will forums survive?

It’s not all gloom and doom for forums. I hope so at least! I’ve been talking to people about this for a while now and here’s why I think forums can still count on getting a hefty chunk of the pie:

1. Most people are still not web savvy enough to use the new forms of social media. Facebook is still the exception in terms of popularity, not the rule. Your average surfer doesn’t blog or tweet and many people still rely on forums to provide them with the opportunity to express themselves and interact with others.

2. Forums still have the advantage when it comes to combining a good structure of information along with interactivity. Wiki’s may be more effective when it comes to organizing information and social networks may offer better interaction, but I do think forums still offer a better combination of the two.

However, for forums to prosper, they can no longer rely on the quality of social interaction alone. Twitter does that better. What they need to fortify is their unique ability to bring together experts in their specific niche and provide quality information and advice.

If you own a forum or want to develop one, focus on retaining the experts that can provide your members with those gems of information they can’t find anywhere else. Don’t rely on providing a “nice atmosphere” for like-minded people – that on its own just isn’t enough.

These conclusions are especially true if your target audience is webmasters or bloggers. The more web-savvy your prospective members are, they more they can interact with their peers via their own blog and social network feed. Focus on offering them something extra, or you risk losing them.

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2 bbrian017
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May 19, 2010 at 11:55 am

I loved your statement, “for forums to prosper, they can no longer rely on the quality of social interaction alone”

I think this is so true. What we will find is the forums that do survive this new age media will be forums that provide support, assistance or give some benefit from a user standpoint. Join forums for the fun of it will no longer be something we see in our age.

Great topic I think your right on with your assumptions. A forum will only survive if it’s needed not because of the social connection aspect.
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3 Anne May 19, 2010 at 10:03 pm

Yup! You know when I join forums nowadays? when I need technical support for a new product and they provide it on a forum… Actually, I also joined a destination-focused travel forum, but again, did it for the information – not the social environment.

4 Keller Hawthorne
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May 19, 2010 at 2:19 pm

And then there are discussions boards built into the social media platforms (like Facebook), as well as fan pages and groups. Interesting topic!

I’ve never been a fan of forums – mainly because of the chaotic way so many are structured. But my husband still uses some regularly. He’s also recently gotten into Facebook – I think I’ll bring this topic up to him and see what his thoughts are.
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5 Anne May 19, 2010 at 10:01 pm

I had a mention of Facebook fan pages originally, but then I cut it out to streamline the post. I think Fan pages are a good example of how Facebook tries to cater to a population that is more of your “classic” non-techie forums folks. Either way, they are secondary in Facebook and not really the main function.

Glad you liked the post – hope hubby enjoys it too :)

6 Karen @ Blazing Minds
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May 20, 2010 at 9:15 am

I remember some years back when I really started using the net more, forums were used by everyone, I even ran one myself, but I noticed the decline in comments and topics when blogging really started to take off in a big way!
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7 Anne May 21, 2010 at 11:25 pm

I am seeing that decline as well. Fortunately, my niche forums aren’t as badly hit. So far…

8 Dana @ Blogging Tips Blog May 21, 2010 at 2:03 am

For me, forum is a place that I can market my service. Forum is not source of knowledge again as it was.
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9 Anne May 21, 2010 at 11:24 pm

Great point. It’s sad for me to see how webmasters forums, which were once the hub of learning, have become into something between a link dump and spam center….

10 Dennis Edell | Direct Sales Marketing
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May 21, 2010 at 12:33 pm

Very well said. Forums were my first encounter into marketing and I used them regularly for several years. I’ve been thinking of getting back and even creating one myself.

Great minds think alike – my first thought after deciding I wanted one was, spend as much time as needed to hand-pick expert moderators for the different topics. :)
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11 Anne May 21, 2010 at 11:12 pm

Did you end up starting new forums? how did you do with them?

12 Aaron May 21, 2010 at 3:02 pm

I agree with you about joining forums to get some sort of technical help. And often, if the solution is clear enough, I won’t have any reason to join, unless I have a question to ask. The one thing I do like about some well put together, and active forums, is the ability to see what clout some of the participants have, and with some it’s easier to find a thread dealing exactly with the topic or solution compared to a blog.
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13 Anne May 21, 2010 at 11:09 pm

Good point – forums today need to make sure information is easy to find on their pages. Or else they lose those visitors who come in search of a solution to a particular problem.

14 donnie May 26, 2010 at 6:35 pm

Interesting thought. I never used forums as a purely social tool. I’ve always used for information, discussion with an expert about a subject. I think forums will continue to thrive in the way they were originally intended. I think you will also see a reduction in use with Facebook and Twitter as people get bored with them.
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15 Gwen June 1, 2010 at 8:17 am

I have had a forum for years. I get a lot of people posting on it, but the spam I get is making me want to shut it down. I don’t understand why these people write programs to destroy my forum.

16 Anne June 1, 2010 at 8:44 am

The only way to combat spam is by having a good team to moderate the forums.

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